Of course, if you grow them perfectly, you can probably grow them sitting in water and never have any rot issues, but very few can achieve this without daily attention to details. Most of us are at the mercy of mother nature and drawn to the needs of our families, which isn't the best situation for our plants. In a greenhouse, you can probably get away with sitting plants in water as long as you keep a close eye on them daily and have all other environmental factors perfected for years on end. Outdoors, You may also get lucky with zero rot by having perfect weather/perfect care for your plants for a year or two, but I'd like to see someone grow these plants constantly sitting in 2" or more of water outdoors all year round for 10 years and not get any rot ever.
Last Edit: Jul 17, 2018 13:25:57 GMT -5 by meizzwang
The dark alatas, for us, have the best coloration later in the year, when the sun is brighter and the western sun hotter. If a plant is given fresh peat mix/repotted, May–early July, dark colors often are at their best. I'm fairly certain that tannins*, specifically Fulvic acids and Humic compounds are at work, possibly chelating iron or facilitating other soil nutrient uptake.
These compounds are often less soluble in cold water. Having a tray of water under the pot can actually help leach the compounds out of the soil faster, resulting in depletion and a slow rise in pH. The best method of reducing tannin loss is to water in the cool of the morning (cooler media), using cool-cold water. Drainage occurs before the media heats up and as the media gets hotter, more of these compounds are surrounding the roots.
*By "tannins", we're talking about a large group of multi-carbon molecules, strongly to weakly acidic, in a dizzying number of arrangements. In peat, humus, etc., microbial degradation, along with chemical changes, makes the exact science of understanding these compounds in soil/media difficult, to say the least. The "black waters", bogs and wet savannas are full of these compounds, which doubtless play a role in phenotypic expression.
If anyone remembers, I did experiments, many years ago, using peat/sphagnum "tea" to color-up forms of S. flava from Wewahitchka FL. Identical (divisions) plants were treated with: nothing= control, several waterings with conductivity-adjusted peat/sphagnum tea (hot water extract, diluted with RO water), or had a foliar spray of chelated iron (1/4 strength?). The peat tea and iron treated plants gained significant red color, while the controls did not.
These flavas, in situ, were almost continuously growing in hot, tannic, blackwater. They were beet-red (atropurpurea) in nature, but revert to an ornata pattern under typical culture. I suspect alata may have similar behavior, but is not as finicky.
Now, to throw another fly in the ointment: in nature, those flavas, growing in flooded, blackwater much of the year, were doubtless getting foliar doses of the water during the severe thunderstorms, typical of FL. Water must have been splashing onto the pitchers, often for long periods. Many of the Mississippi alatas we saw, where there was a lot of color variation, were growing in low areas, prone to flooding and the same possibility, foliar uptake of nutrients.
Post by meizzwang on Sept 24, 2018 15:22:55 GMT -5
Not so stunning, but interesting and educational nonetheless. It's fascinating to see how many different versions of color a single clone can go through. S. alata Black MKA58, photos taken 9/23/18. Here's an older summer trap:
stu: Hi Mike: I’m pleased to report that the S. rubra wherryi Chatom Giant you sent has arrived in great shape as did the bonus plant from NC. Both are now back under southern skies and are feeling warm, humid, and at home again. Thanks!
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sanguinearocks101: I am planning on doing an order from Mike... and I’m on a budget, some of the hardest decisions I’ve ever made
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sanguinearocks101: What are good plants to make hybrids with S. luecophylla with? Im looking for dark colors.
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adaetz100: Sarracenia purpurea tends to add a lot of red/purple to its offspring, but there are some lovely dark red flava x leucophylla crosses too. Look up 'Royal Ruby' if you're not familiar with it already--it's a natural flava x leuco hybrid
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sarrseens: How about $50
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