Here's a really nice clone of S. flava var. cuprea that I acquired from Lois Ochs of Raccoon Ridge Nursery. I visited her extensive collection many years back and saw this beauty, and she was nice enough to bring me a clone of it the following year
Last year, I took photos of this exact plant and posted pictures on the ICPS forum. Several people mentioned they didn't believe this is a S. flava var. cuprea because the body showed heavy red coloration. Some hinted this plant might actually be a S. flava var. atropurpurea.
To be frank, I say "bah, humbug"! I've bred with this plant, and the majority of the offspring are cuprea dominant with very bright coppery lids. A solid red plant will show up here and there. Sure, the body of "lois clone" can turn a reddish color under certain environmental conditions, but the same can be said about other cuprea clones (ie. S. flava var. cuprea 'best clone' from California Carnivores). In addition, when my carolina S. flava var. atropurpureas are not solid red for whatever environmental reason, they don't turn into cupreas ever! This whole debate reminds me of S. flava var. rubricorporas from Florida that can turn solid red-some call those S. flava var. atropurpureas even if they originated from a rubricorpora. In any case, you be the judge.
S. flava var. cuprea 'Lois clone', photos taken 5/27/13:
Now here's some photos of S. flava var. cuprea 'Lois clone' from last spring(2012)-notice how the body has a lot more pigment on it, almost to the point it doesn't look like a cuprea:
And since I mentioned S. flava var. cuprea 'Best clone' here's what it normally looks like-it has been claimed that this plant can turn solid red, and I don't doubt it:
Last Edit: May 27, 2013 23:15:26 GMT -5 by meizzwang
I like your style Mike. And your cuprea too - a real stunner. Besides, the Carolina flava varieties are related so share a good deal of physical commonality as a result. As you point out, they are distinct from western Florida flava not only in form and growth pattern but, perhaps more critically, in their geographical location, the respective locations being ~700 miles apart.
Lois is in full pitcher at the moment and I'm loving it. No dice on solid RED pitchers a la Wang but it looks pretty darn good. Cupreas seem to drop color when stressed due to repotting, dividing, or over-pruning of phyllodia, like red tubes and atros do. Mine was freshly potted prior to the 2014 season and while pretty, it didn't have nearly as much color as this year, particularly in the tube.
S. flava var. cuprea 'Lois clone' is looking very "Cuprea'ey" year, photos taken 7/2/18. Just repotted it last winter, but it was repotted for Jesus (ie. dormant leaves were left in tact, roots weren't disturbed, plant wasn't divided):
Last Edit: Jul 5, 2018 12:30:46 GMT -5 by meizzwang
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