I have never grown sarracenia from seeds before, but Flytrapking had a 50% off sale, and I couldn’t resist trying it out. I figured I’d start this thread to chronicle my (hopefully) successful attempt, and to get yelled at if I’m doing anything wrong. Here’s what I bought:
1x Leucophylla 'Super Swamp Ghost' x Leah Wilkerson seeds 1x Plum x (Oreophila x Leah Wilkerson) seeds 1x (Oreophila x Flava) x Moorei Red seeds 1x Gin goblin x Leah Wilkerson seeds 1x Leuco 41 x Wilkerson's red OP seeds 1x 'Ben Stein's monster' x 'Santa rosa red' seeds 1x RFN leucophylla x 'Adrian Slack' seeds 1x ((Leuc x flava) x leuc) x (oreo x flava) seeds 1x Leah wilkerson x moorei marston seeds 1x Unknown 23 x red dixie seeds
I received the seeds on 8/25/18 and stratified them until 9/26/18. Hopefully, I get some germination soon.
I'm going to be following your progress....I'm no authority but everything I've read is 2 months cold stratification is required...I've read as well that leucophylla sometimes germinates at 6 weeks but thats probably more likely with fresh seeds as opposed to what I believe you got...I doubt they'd be having sale on fresh seeds...not to worry...I ordered from them too!
Post by DirtyDivisions on Oct 6, 2018 8:44:39 GMT -5
1 month stratification is plenty enough. Germination for me usually gets into full swing around two weeks after putting them under the lights, but some seeds may take longer depending on your conditions.
Yep, what DD said. S. purpurea ssp. purpurea does best with 6 weeks, but 4 weeks refrigerated is plenty for all the others. I spray the soil with a sulfur-based fungicide when I sow and maybe 2 weeks in, and that helps keep mold in check.
Post by drummer230 on Oct 21, 2018 15:20:59 GMT -5
Here’s an update: some crosses are coming up in bunches, but other crosses have no germination yet. I’ve been putting them in the sun trying to get some better germination rates if it helps. I have some more seeds stratifying, but this time I’m attempting to use peat instead of paper towels.
Makes me wonder whether not a longer stratification period might be in order for older seeds. I look at it this way...an extra month in stratification or weeks waiting for something to germinate....its also said to store the stratified seeds in the coldest part of your refrigerator....I imagine on the door or in a crisper drawer things might be very different...IMHO, of course!
Post by drummer230 on Oct 21, 2018 20:21:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I use the crisper drawer. This study seems to suggest that there isn’t really much of a difference between 4 and 6 weeks www.srs.fs.usda.gov/longleaf/products/poster-files/2011_Pitcher_Plant_poster.pdf. Wish it were a little more detailed though. Who knows? You may be on to something, though I did see Calen mention somewhere that he gets poor germination rates using paper towels. My hope is to start breeding plants this upcoming year and get a bunch of seeds. I’m going to do some experiments with length of stratification and peat vs paper towels. But again, as you mentioned maybe age of seed is impeding germination at the point. Hope to get it figured out.
drummer230 i once had a bunch of seed that did not germinate at the time i didn't think to much about it and just reused the peat that had the seeds that didn't germinate for potting up some larger plants and then the following spring i had lots of random seedlings germinating, i dont know how old the seed was or anything but it makes me think that doing another stratification could of helped me then, you could try doing another stratification and see if that helps things get going.
sanguinearocks101: What are good plants to make hybrids with S. luecophylla with? Im looking for dark colors.
Sept 10, 2020 18:46:52 GMT -5
adaetz100: Sarracenia purpurea tends to add a lot of red/purple to its offspring, but there are some lovely dark red flava x leucophylla crosses too. Look up 'Royal Ruby' if you're not familiar with it already--it's a natural flava x leuco hybrid
Sept 22, 2020 20:15:04 GMT -5
sarrseens: How about $50
Oct 3, 2020 10:35:54 GMT -5