Post by meizzwang on Sept 18, 2017 12:45:18 GMT -5
It's still around and I'm sure the plants are fine. It was reported the property wasn't properly burned in recent times, but should still be okay. The previous land managers who maintained the property for many years are carnivorous plant professionals, so it's hard to compete with that.
However, if there are any native CP within bee flying distance, it could permanently alter those populations. In general, this kind of out planting is frowned upon by ecologists because non-native plants can get a foothold and potentially damage the native gene pool. Eventually, the plants will seed into massive hybrid swarms, since there are no pollination controls.
One could argue that introducing Drosera from Australia is a bit reckless, since their effect on local Drosera, long-term, is unknown.
If the area floods, where do the seeds go?
Looking good isn't the same as being good, when considering the ecosystems.
very true bogman, and it's a very bad idea to do this with any other extant population. On the other hand, this property was altered decades ago before it was common knowledge that planting non-native CP's was a big no-no. Getting rid of invasives, even if they're sensitive CP's, can take decades to accomplish.
This property is a double edged sword: some endangered species as well as flava rugelii populations exist today only because they were literally dug up out of the wild and planted on that property before it was destroyed. We're talking rare Georgia flava rugelii's that are now someone's landscaped front yard. we're also talking about the KFC flava rugelii's. Dig out these "invasive" plants and their long term security is threatened. Sure, I have them in my collection, but when I die and if that population is destroyed, there's a clone here at Johnny's, and a clone at Billy's, but no large population by which conservationists can utilize to save the population as a whole. This property solves that problem by maintaining genetically diverse populations of plants extinct in the wild.
There have been other attempts to dig up plants at other sites before they were destroyed and keep them going in cultivation (I think Florida state spearheaded this project in the early 200's), but those rescued plants have long since perished. All it takes is a change in leadership and those plants are no longer being maintained. If any land should be used for long term preservation purposes, this is the property. Hopefully, the owners will turn it into an easement that cannot ever be developed. It's truly a genetic goldmine.
I do remember the property being surrounded by farm land and forested area for miles on end, followed by pine plantations. Besides the neighor's small bog that looked way overgrown/shaded in 2011 (in 1997, it was a robust, open leucophylla field visible from the road), there might be other nearby sites, but the surrounding area has been so long destroyed, it's highly unlikely this "island oasis" has a chance of causing an invasive outbreak elsewhere. Of course, at the time it was planted, I'm sure neighboring bogs were invaded, but those have long since been plowed. So sad to think the local environment is so broken, it's unlikely that it can be invaded by non-native CP's.
Last Edit: Nov 27, 2018 14:29:10 GMT -5 by meizzwang
Good to hear the place is isolated, but also sad to hear it's isolated.
Are the plants well labeled? I'd suggest stainless steel, embossed, with ss wire pegs.
The time I spent with friends, in the 1970s-80s, visiting countless sites, now destroyed, was some of the best spent time of my life.
To really preserve site-specific plants, it's be best to remove all flowers before they set seed, or bag them properly for seed production. Otherwise, it'll ultimately end up a chaotic mixture. We "dead head" here, to prevent such a mess.
I sure hope they wrote a map of the place, there's no labels in the ground.
Regarding removing the flowers, I've been told by a reliable source that the site, after many years of observation, didn't have significant numbers of seedlings surviving to adulthood. The grass gets very thick very quickly, it's not like some remote sites where I've seen very high numbers of seedlings. Could have to do with how they burn the site, but there also might be a relatively high nutrient load in the soil that keeps the population from getting bigger. Who knows what effect increased CO2 and nitrogen precipitating from pollution has on the field.
Most of the hybrids on the property that weren't dug up from the wild were first grown from seed in hoop houses and then planted back into the field. They used to collect massive number of open pollinated seeds from their field and sprout hundreds of thousands of them at a time.
sanguinearocks101: What are good plants to make hybrids with S. luecophylla with? Im looking for dark colors.
Sept 10, 2020 18:46:52 GMT -5
adaetz100: Sarracenia purpurea tends to add a lot of red/purple to its offspring, but there are some lovely dark red flava x leucophylla crosses too. Look up 'Royal Ruby' if you're not familiar with it already--it's a natural flava x leuco hybrid
Sept 22, 2020 20:15:04 GMT -5
sarrseens: How about $50
Oct 3, 2020 10:35:54 GMT -5