There are likely several populations of S. rubra ancestral in Marion Co, GA, 2 of which had never been introduced into cultivation until 2014. I have personally never seen rubra ancestral in the wild; the only site I knew of had become extinct about a decade after it was last visited. Many of these sites are in flux due to climate change, but more so because of habitat destruction or alteration. Take away a fire, or bulldoze a neighboring plot which changes the water table, and our beloved Sarracenia habitat is forever altered, oftentimes for the worst. However, some of these extinctions are natural:in the case of the ancestral population I knew about, they grew on the side of a creek, and the surrounding vegetation eventually overtook the habitat. It's likely that these populations rely on seed dispersal to repopulate new sites, and I don't doubt that either upstream or downstream, populations probably still exist.
So why did these Marion Co, GA plants not get squeezed out and die? Well, the creek banks or shallow, boggy ponds that they grow in didn't get altered for one reason or anther, that's my guess!
Anyhow, it appears there's a lot of genetic diversity with the Marion Co, GA populations. One population has a more rubra ssp. rubra dominant phenotype, whereas the other population has more of a rubra ssp. gulfensis dominant phenotype. Weird isn't it? Anyhow, here's some pics of the rubra ssp. rubra dominant phenotype. Photos taken 7/21/16:
Wacky D is in the house! (CB-4 reference in case any of you are wondering):
I forgot the location data regarding the ancestral I got from you but it is a strange rubra indeed. out of the gate there was no competition between it and the chantom giant. The giant put these nice, tall and uniform pitchers whereas the ancestral put up these crazy long-lidded pitchers that couldn't stand up and behaved kinda like a scarlette belle or something. But now later in the summer it has seemingly got it's stuff together and put up some handsome pitchers.
I've seen a population of them in the wild. Truly beautiful plants. They were growing with giant parrot pitchers (and hybrids) as well as a giant pool of U.purpurea and D.Intermedia growing on top of the water! Beautiful place but be ready to get wet. You can't get close to the plants without getting in chest deep bog muck. The good news it's too thick for large gators and snapping turtles. The bad news istory it puts the snakes and fire ant at face height. I did it once, but next time I'm bringing my long distance lense to appreciate them from a distance lol.
i think my ancestral are from peach co. but check it out.....early in the season the plants pitchers are almost unimpressive very slender, dangling everywhere growing out and bushy but the second pic, same plant however the pitchers are bigger, taller and upright. the amount of variation is intriguing to me.
Divisions from the mother plants looking pretty nice, and I think they've grown a little bit since these pics were taken, as many fall traps were emerging a week or two ago. gotta snap some more pics in the near future. Pics taken 8/9/19:
Lots of diversity in this population:
There's a couple of fattie clones up in this mix too, they get relatively giant. The traps on this clone aren't yet giant, but this plant does produce unusually large pitchers:
A few more pics for fun, pics taken 8/28/19. I think quite a few of you out there now have this plant and realize just how much these pics don't do them justice. Crazy amount of diversity in this population:
sanguinearocks101: What are good plants to make hybrids with S. luecophylla with? Im looking for dark colors.
Sept 10, 2020 18:46:52 GMT -5
adaetz100: Sarracenia purpurea tends to add a lot of red/purple to its offspring, but there are some lovely dark red flava x leucophylla crosses too. Look up 'Royal Ruby' if you're not familiar with it already--it's a natural flava x leuco hybrid
Sept 22, 2020 20:15:04 GMT -5
sarrseens: How about $50
Oct 3, 2020 10:35:54 GMT -5