Post by DaBogJesus on Mar 27, 2016 16:53:42 GMT -5
Mike King was recently featured in an article expounding the benefits of a peat-free potting mix for Sarracenia and other bog plants. He has me sold. I plan on starting trials this week with a mix consisting (roughly) of...
- 2 parts fine pine bark (about one inch diameter chips or less) - 1 part perlite (mix of medium and coarse) - 1 part crushed granite (I'll be using "chicken grit" of 3/16" average diameter)
Mike claims big things and others vouch for him. The soil has been proven to last two years in Mike's conditions and is claimed to offer resistance to typical Sarracenia fungal afflictions.
Here's the article for those interested; it's a quick read.
This seems to be a copy of Al's gritty mix and has proven excellent for most potted plants. In the mix being discussed, the only ingredient not being included is the turface. I use this gritty mix for everything I have in pots for long term because it lasts forever. Do an internet search, there as many discussion s about this mix in the container gardening forums.
Post by DaBogJesus on Mar 27, 2016 20:08:18 GMT -5
I'm glad to hear others are gungho for this project! Let's make this the official peatless mix thread, shall we? Be sure to report your findings here, gang.
eric Bigger pine bark nuggets will need to be milled down somehow. I am thinking about obtaining a wood chipper for this purpose. If you can find pine bark fines or mini nuggets that would be fine, though.
I've read about *THE* gritty mix on Garden Web and researched it thoroughly. I used it for a while with succulents and house plants and just couldn't keep up with the watering. Also, more than once I tipped a pot om accident for a resultant huge-ass mess; the mix is so loose it just goes everywhere. Excellent in theory it is though.
Conversly, the proportion of bark to grit in this new mix is a way different proportion than the gritty mix if I recall correctly. When I refined materials and proportioned for the gritty mix as is prescribed by the ethereal Al the mixture looked mostly like gravel due to the high ratio of Turface and granite. This CP mixture should look much like the typical peat:perlite mixture typically prescribed for carnivorous plants.
Additionally, Al's mix sometimes requires pH adjustment initially or overtime with gypsum, depending on a plants need. The high ratio of bark in this mix should assure a CP-friendly pH. Mr. King corroborated this on Facebook in a discussion, too.
They do have similarities though, these two mixes. Good eye!
I wonder if cypress bark could be used instead of pine bark, would that create an issue with cypress sustainability? (Are there any cypress tree farms?)
I wondered about this, too. What is the pH of cypress wood mulch?
Butch the Heli Guy uses cypress with his Heliamphora with great results. If I recall Heliamphora dont need such acidic conditions as Sarracenia. Or maybe I am thinking of cobras. I know they often grown in areas with nearly neutral pH.
Last Edit: Mar 27, 2016 20:18:04 GMT -5 by DaBogJesus
Post by DaBogJesus on Mar 27, 2016 20:21:21 GMT -5
Sweet. I edited my post above, so I'll say it again and elaborate. Butch's mix for Heliamphora consist of sphagnum, Turface, and cypress mulch. I always thought the moss lent the acidity but it seems thwy both play a role.
Like with big bark nuggets a chipper would probably be required to mill the stuff down. Small particles seem necessary to keep the mix "Sarracenia wet."
Al lists two ratios for the mixes, one is a 1:1:1 which I think is the actual gritty mix. The other is a 3:1:1 with the 3 being pine bark fines. This 3:1:1 is the one this sounds similar too. I use the 1:1:1 here in Florida and let it stand in a tray of water. With the amount of rain we get, it has been excellent. Other mixes would degrade over 1 season but this mix has been great for trees and such which you want to leave alone for years.
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