S. flava var. rubricorpora clone M Liberty Co, FL "behaved" a bit strange this year: it didn't produce any pitchers until now (end of May!) All other rubricorporas from the same population produced pitchers about a month ago, so this was really weird.
Clone M typically produces one or two pitchers per year, and they tend to be gigantic. It has a standard, solid bright red body, but one unique thing I just noticed is how the lid is solid red at the base with red veins extending out to the "end" of the lid. This characteristic changes from year to year. There's only one pitcher on my plant this year, and it's a little over 2 ft tall. This clone is very similar to clone N, and perhaps they are siblings.
Photos of S. flava var. rubricorpora clone M Liberty Co, FL taken 5/27/13-notice the pitcher just opened!
Here are some photos of the same exact clone taken in 2011-notice how there isn't a solid red base on the lid, but there are red veins:
Last Edit: May 27, 2013 22:52:19 GMT -5 by meizzwang
Mike, I've found the same thing with my Liberty Co. var rubricorpora clones. They can be variable in this regard as you say. At times it seems inexplicable. S.flava var rubricorpora is a highly variable variety, no question, with a wide range of presentations that can change from season to season even in stable growing conditions. This can be seen in in situ populations. I feel this wide range of variability needs more recognition such as it has received in publications in the recent past without them being named as other varieties as has been the case in a more recent publication, something of a revision of the previous work without reference to it.
Very good point KE! Perhaps some varieties (ie. hurricane creek white, S. flava var. rubricorpora) are more prone to displaying variable phenotypes. I wonder if there is a correlation between a clone's individual genetic diversity (ie. less inbreeding and more outcrossing in the previous generations) and it's propensity to display more phenotypic variation?
Hurricane creek white came from a gigantic S. leucophylla population, most of which were not pure white (S. rubra wherryi, S. psittacina, and S. rosea were also found at that site), and S. flava var. rubricorporas from Liberty Co, FL also come from a really large population mixed with S. flava var. rugelii, S. roseas, and S. psittacinas. this suggests their genetics are likely to be more "mixed."
Who knows-only time will tell after we self several generations of plants and compare them to plants resulting from several generations of outcrossing.
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