S. flava var. rubricorpora clone M Liberty Co, FL "behaved" a bit strange this year: it didn't produce any pitchers until now (end of May!) All other rubricorporas from the same population produced pitchers about a month ago, so this was really weird.
Clone M typically produces one or two pitchers per year, and they tend to be gigantic. It has a standard, solid bright red body, but one unique thing I just noticed is how the lid is solid red at the base with red veins extending out to the "end" of the lid. This characteristic changes from year to year. There's only one pitcher on my plant this year, and it's a little over 2 ft tall. This clone is very similar to clone N, and perhaps they are siblings.
Photos of S. flava var. rubricorpora clone M Liberty Co, FL taken 5/27/13-notice the pitcher just opened!
Here are some photos of the same exact clone taken in 2011-notice how there isn't a solid red base on the lid, but there are red veins:
Last Edit: May 27, 2013 22:52:19 GMT -5 by meizzwang
Mike, I've found the same thing with my Liberty Co. var rubricorpora clones. They can be variable in this regard as you say. At times it seems inexplicable. S.flava var rubricorpora is a highly variable variety, no question, with a wide range of presentations that can change from season to season even in stable growing conditions. This can be seen in in situ populations. I feel this wide range of variability needs more recognition such as it has received in publications in the recent past without them being named as other varieties as has been the case in a more recent publication, something of a revision of the previous work without reference to it.
Very good point KE! Perhaps some varieties (ie. hurricane creek white, S. flava var. rubricorpora) are more prone to displaying variable phenotypes. I wonder if there is a correlation between a clone's individual genetic diversity (ie. less inbreeding and more outcrossing in the previous generations) and it's propensity to display more phenotypic variation?
Hurricane creek white came from a gigantic S. leucophylla population, most of which were not pure white (S. rubra wherryi, S. psittacina, and S. rosea were also found at that site), and S. flava var. rubricorporas from Liberty Co, FL also come from a really large population mixed with S. flava var. rugelii, S. roseas, and S. psittacinas. this suggests their genetics are likely to be more "mixed."
Who knows-only time will tell after we self several generations of plants and compare them to plants resulting from several generations of outcrossing.
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Sept 3, 2015 22:15:14 GMT -5
Richard Harold: I was considering purchasing the VFT Ginormous. But now I have second thoughts after reading this thread. I am look for a large sized red trap fast growing variety. What would be my BEST choice?
Sept 7, 2015 20:50:40 GMT -5
Richard Harold: Can't register for some reason. I am having second thoughts about ordering a VFT Ginormous after reading this thread. I am looking for a fast growing large sized red trap . Which variety would you recommend as being my BEST choice? firstname.lastname@example.org
Sept 7, 2015 21:18:06 GMT -5
ErrorEN: 'King Henry' has consistently been a monster for me. It grows fast and has consistently large traps, but you'll have to trade off color and growing style (it gets everywhere) for it.
Sept 8, 2015 12:59:34 GMT -5
ErrorEN: B52 and the Australian Low Giant are also winners.
Sept 8, 2015 12:59:48 GMT -5
meizzwang: Yeah, King Henry definitely produces HEW-MONGIS traps, although B-52 seems to be easier to grow.
Sept 8, 2015 15:38:12 GMT -5
katyadog1: Matt Miller's all around favorite VFT is G16. It gets beautiful color, low to the ground growth, and good size.
Sept 9, 2015 7:46:34 GMT -5
ErrorEN: Hard to find a decent piece of one though! I did pick up a premium sized Z11 and Low Giant from him on Monday.
Sept 9, 2015 15:25:34 GMT -5
katyadog1: Generally, G16 sells out pretty fast, but plenty of people have it. Emailing to ask when it'll be available again is always a good option.
Sept 10, 2015 9:19:12 GMT -5
katyadog1: And flytraps grow pretty darn fast. (compared to Sarracenia) Doesn't take a long time to get one to mature size. Premium would take longer, though I have a feeling it could be cut to two years with regular feeding.
Sept 10, 2015 9:20:30 GMT -5
ErrorEN: I suppose you're right. Instant gratification is a *****.
Sept 11, 2015 9:59:19 GMT -5
katyadog1: Instant gratification is not associated with Carnivorous Plants of any type. Unfortunately it seems to be less and less associated with the more desirable plants the farther up in price you go...
Sept 14, 2015 7:09:33 GMT -5
NegativeInfinity: I heard about some open pollinated sarracenia seeds being given away. How can i get in on that?
Sept 29, 2015 15:16:34 GMT -5
Jonathan Mejia: Hello Negative Infinity: To sign up for giveaway 1. be a member of the forum 2. Sign up for one of the many giveaways (there is one every 3 days, the first one is over sept 29. The next one starts Sept 30. 3. Wait till the winner is announced!
Sept 30, 2015 1:29:12 GMT -5
axelrod12: Why don't we use this like a chatbox, is that it's intended purpose?
Oct 2, 2015 19:13:10 GMT -5
ErrorEN: It is,Greg. There just aren't that many people that use it like TF
Oct 3, 2015 9:56:18 GMT -5